Jodi Kantor

And I'm wondering what distinguishes an investigation that produces consensus from one that remains contested?

I mean, that is the question.

So we have to give...

the answer that's in the article, and we have to give the answer that's out of the article.

This is why it's so important, Debbie, not to, forgive my language, not publish half-assed stuff.

The reason the Weinstein story had the impact it did...

is because Megan and I and other journalists had overwhelming evidence.

Our first story had 25 years worth of allegations.

We had women on the record.

We had internal human resources.

Memos.

Memos, exactly.

We had the legal and financial trail of 8 to 12 settlements, 8 to 12 times he had had to pay out money to women and silence them.

As a result, the ensuing debate was not about, oh, did this happen?

Did they exaggerate?

Are they just activists?

It was about how could this have happened?

And how could all of these powerful people have helped Harvey Weinstein instead of helping these women?

So that's the answer that's like...

under my control as a journalist.