Jodi Kantor

It was like, no, this behavior is everywhere in the culture, and we are going to fairly try to find out what actually ensued.

And then what happened, and this really happened with the nomination of Justice Kavanaugh, is that Me Too became very politicized.

And I'm not blaming the Me Too movement.

But that is what happened, and that is largely where things stand today, where now the

Like, it's totally true that Me Too is kind of a blue state democratic movement.

And in Republican red state circles, we see a very strong backlash.

But women keep coming forward, Debbie.

I have lived through so many prognostications about, oh, the Me Too movement is dead.

And then women still keep coming forward.

It's remarkable.

It has never stopped since 2017.

We keep learning new stories.

And now, even in the middle of a presidentially-led pandemic,

backlash, these women are still unearthing what happened to them.

So I don't think it's stopping anytime soon.

Good.

In recent years, you've turned your reporting to the Supreme Court.

Was that something that was triggered from the work that you subsequently did in reporting on Christine Blasey Ford?

No, not at all.

Not at all.