Jodi Kantor

You're like, oh,

oh my God, I love this.

It could be a person you feel really drawn to.

It could be a task you love doing.

It could be a company that lights you on fire.

Listen to that.

Write it down in a notebook.

Even if you don't get hired at that specific place, write down what it means.

Because

That is really valuable data, and I want you to figure out what it represents, and I want you to run towards it.

I want to challenge just one thing that you said about your book.

Mm-hmm.

You said that you hope it gives people confidence.

I think this book does more than that.

And I really want to share that after having lived in your world for the last couple of weeks doing my research to prepare for today's show, I think this book does something more important.

I think it will give people courage to do what they feel in their hearts is the right thing to do.

Confidence will come after the courage.

This book will give people the courage to step into the kind of life they hope and dream for.

And when they do that...

that courage will propel them towards the confidence.