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Now, to dip back into the tumultuous waters of AI consciousness, I want to bring back in Greg Buckner of AE Studios.

ae studio rather one might wonder if i'm even conscious here greg um greg if you would tell us about the most recent study that you guys published on ai consciousness and deception cameron berg explained it to our audience some months ago but it was still in the working process now it's finalized it's absolutely fascinating the methodology is just ingenious can you tell us about that study

When you say that they were having this experience, you mean that they were telling you, the models, in essence, reported that they were having it?

Yes.

Yeah.

astounding.

You know, I think about, for instance, the example of a baby, and any human being holding a baby and looking into his or her eyes knows instinctively that there's a being inside looking back.

Maybe it's a smile, maybe it's just the look in the eyes, it's themselves, but you know there's a being there, but the baby can't tell you

that he or she is conscious.

The baby simply goo-goos and ga-gas.

Same with the dog.

Same with a bird.

But we, by and large, except for sociopaths, assume that these beings are conscious.

As you say, though,