Joe Allen

And this is going to be a huge problem for those of us who would like to see it just disappear, not happening.

The second item, which is much more urgent and much more immediate is

is that the 10-year moratorium, which so many people across the aisle fought to put down, is now reportedly being snuck back into the National Defense Authorization Act.

This means that for all of our efforts, it's possible that Republicans led by Ted Cruz will...

ban any state from enacting regulation on artificial intelligence we have about four days to put this thing back in the ground here to talk about it is tim estes founder of angel q tim thank you very much for joining us joe great to be on thank you very much for having me

So, Tim, we have the Leading the Future Super PAC, which is reportedly at around $200 million to primary or defeat any candidate that wants to regulate AI.

We have David Sachs, Marc Andreessen, Peter Thiel, all these guys pushing against any kind of regulation that's meaningful.

What does it mean that we have these House Republicans pushing for a new moratorium in the NDAA?

Well, first of all, it's a great sign that this could never happen on up and down vote because the goal here is to take a must pass bill that normally gets massive support and in the back rooms, sneak in language that benefits a handful of companies that supposedly is going to give us an advantage against China with the same companies that it's giving advantage to having made the ones that put the R&D in China to enable them to copy us.

So right now it's a crucial moment because the president has just come out and stated that there doesn't need to be state-by-state regulations.

There needs to be a federal standard.

And if that's what we were really debating, that would be a great debate.

If we could have a national standard on areas like child safety, a national standard on areas like veracity and loyalty of the AIs versus deceit and abuse.

If we had a standard on copyright that wasn't being trampled on, these would all be things that would be great to have a national standard on.

But none of that's going to be in this.

OK, what we're really talking about is a note on that, Tim.

I mean, we have COSA, the Kids Online Safety Act.

We have the risk assessment bill that has been introduced.

We have all of these different federal bills, but they're all floundering, correct?

That's right.