Joe Biden

And it is something that if a campaign doesn't want to necessarily get tagged or an organization doesn't necessarily want to get tagged with

you knowing where the message is coming from, per se, or if they are engaged in practices around the lists that they've uploaded that wouldn't pass muster for the text that they send from their short code, you know, like their five-digit number that is the official campaign thing, you might find that in peer-to-peer text. Peer-to-peer text is...

you knowing where the message is coming from, per se, or if they are engaged in practices around the lists that they've uploaded that wouldn't pass muster for the text that they send from their short code, you know, like their five-digit number that is the official campaign thing, you might find that in peer-to-peer text. Peer-to-peer text is...

came up as an organizing tool to help voters reach out to people in their community or people that they knew and is definitely a key part of running a big grassroots campaign. But in the hands of grifty operatives, it can also be a key part of why you're getting bombarded so badly.

came up as an organizing tool to help voters reach out to people in their community or people that they knew and is definitely a key part of running a big grassroots campaign. But in the hands of grifty operatives, it can also be a key part of why you're getting bombarded so badly.

Yeah. And maybe I'm just old school, but our clients and campaigns and organizations we work with at Blue State don't send unsolicited SMS or email. It's just not the way to build a strong, healthy program over the long period. And the biggest, most successful programs over long periods of time don't engage in these practices. Yeah.

Yeah. And maybe I'm just old school, but our clients and campaigns and organizations we work with at Blue State don't send unsolicited SMS or email. It's just not the way to build a strong, healthy program over the long period. And the biggest, most successful programs over long periods of time don't engage in these practices. Yeah.

Which of those do you think is real? You know, I think a lot of people would love to have that level of energy from our Senate Democratic leader, but I think the last one was probably the biggest one.

Which of those do you think is real? You know, I think a lot of people would love to have that level of energy from our Senate Democratic leader, but I think the last one was probably the biggest one.

I mean, if you think about the version on the Republican side, right? On the Republican side, the grassroots fundraising is distilled to its most grifty concentrate because they just don't need that money, right? Like the Republican financing operation is so brazenly corrupt that all of the grassroots fundraising is really just about tricking older folks. Mm-hmm.

I mean, if you think about the version on the Republican side, right? On the Republican side, the grassroots fundraising is distilled to its most grifty concentrate because they just don't need that money, right? Like the Republican financing operation is so brazenly corrupt that all of the grassroots fundraising is really just about tricking older folks. Mm-hmm.

Into entering their credit card information that is being auto charged every month and they don't know or check. Right. And that's the end state of where it's going. Right. For these kind of messages that you're seeing. And so it's both a. annoyance, and it makes the fundraising harder for people that are trying to do fundraising for important races and meaningful causes.

Into entering their credit card information that is being auto charged every month and they don't know or check. Right. And that's the end state of where it's going. Right. For these kind of messages that you're seeing. And so it's both a. annoyance, and it makes the fundraising harder for people that are trying to do fundraising for important races and meaningful causes.

But it's also just a content problem, right? Like people's perception of what the political conversation is, what democratic messaging is, what is important and needs to be emphasized and lifted up is all distorted by whatever the 0.01 zero, zero, one response rate ticking up to, you know, adding a thousandth of a percent to that.

But it's also just a content problem, right? Like people's perception of what the political conversation is, what democratic messaging is, what is important and needs to be emphasized and lifted up is all distorted by whatever the 0.01 zero, zero, one response rate ticking up to, you know, adding a thousandth of a percent to that.

I think... People say things to candidates about the email and SMS that they get. But the reality is that unless it's a presidential campaign, you as a candidate likely won't encounter most of the people getting these messages. Because like you, I get all these messages and none of them are for anybody running in my district or usually even in my state.

I think... People say things to candidates about the email and SMS that they get. But the reality is that unless it's a presidential campaign, you as a candidate likely won't encounter most of the people getting these messages. Because like you, I get all these messages and none of them are for anybody running in my district or usually even in my state.

And so you're not going to bump into these people unless you're on a plane or something, right? You're not going to bump into any of the people who your campaign is aggravating.

And so you're not going to bump into these people unless you're on a plane or something, right? You're not going to bump into any of the people who your campaign is aggravating.

Yeah, the email inbox is a more regulated place, right, by Gmail or by whatever other service you use. And so things get sorted out. There's also still an ongoing war around deliverability. And so the more of these bad practices that you engage in in email, the worse your email will perform in terms of getting to the people who actually signed up and want it.