Joe Biden

My journey to my spirituality had certain similarities in that, not that I was pregnant, so definitely not that one, but I had a friend and friends who were starting to get interested in spirituality and they invited me to hear a monk speak.

And I'd seen monks while I was growing up, but I'd never really engaged with one or really understood what they did or meant.

And I'm so glad I said yes to going along.

And I was very young.

I was 18, 19 years old.

I wasn't even seeking.

I was open and I was curious.

Right.

And to be honest, I was doing what everyone else was doing at that time when you were 18, 19 year old kid, like, you know.

Experimenting.

Experimenting and doing everything else under the sun.

But I'm so glad I went because now looking back, I find that after meeting the monks that I met, it gave my life a compass at a very early age

that I'm so grateful for because it changed the entire trajectory of my life.

I can't imagine what I would have ended up doing in the same way as you did.

And it sounds dramatic, but it's true that without the group of friends that invited me to go along and meet my teachers, who would become my future teachers, I can't imagine what life could be like.

And are those teachers still your teachers?

Yes, absolutely.

Still since that time.

So it's been nearly 20 years now.

That's meaningful.