Joe Biden

Yeah, you're replying stop to that campaign, and usually they'll follow your request to stop. But the consultant that put your data in that campaign's file is obviously not going to stop. Can you explain what a scam pack is and how it works?

There are operatives who run shops that produce mail or digital services or technology or data, and they set up packs that look like they're going to do something, right, to help Democrats win or this kind of Democrat or fight on this issue. And really what happens is it becomes a self-licking ice cream cone for the consultant.

There are operatives who run shops that produce mail or digital services or technology or data, and they set up packs that look like they're going to do something, right, to help Democrats win or this kind of Democrat or fight on this issue. And really what happens is it becomes a self-licking ice cream cone for the consultant.

So it's raising money but spending basically all of its money on raising the money for the consultants and operatives who set it up. You're right. It's really awful. And also, I mean, I think they're –

So it's raising money but spending basically all of its money on raising the money for the consultants and operatives who set it up. You're right. It's really awful. And also, I mean, I think they're –

Yeah, there are cases where that's the candidate. There are cases, though, also where the candidate is making choices to run a very high overhead fundraising program that not every candidate needs to or should be an expert in fundraising practices. But a lot of times you can have campaigns that get taken for a ride and wind up paying a considerable portion of their overhead to the consultants.

Yeah, there are cases where that's the candidate. There are cases, though, also where the candidate is making choices to run a very high overhead fundraising program that not every candidate needs to or should be an expert in fundraising practices. But a lot of times you can have campaigns that get taken for a ride and wind up paying a considerable portion of their overhead to the consultants.

Peer-to-peer texting is when you have a group of volunteers who are willing to do something for you. You provide them a software tool where they can log in and send pre-filled out texts to a pre-selected list of voters or prospective donors or whatever that is.

Peer-to-peer texting is when you have a group of volunteers who are willing to do something for you. You provide them a software tool where they can log in and send pre-filled out texts to a pre-selected list of voters or prospective donors or whatever that is.

And it is something that if a campaign doesn't want to necessarily get tagged or an organization doesn't necessarily want to get tagged with

And it is something that if a campaign doesn't want to necessarily get tagged or an organization doesn't necessarily want to get tagged with

you knowing where the message is coming from, per se, or if they are engaged in practices around the lists that they've uploaded that wouldn't pass muster for the text that they send from their short code, you know, like their five-digit number that is the official campaign thing, you might find that in peer-to-peer text. Peer-to-peer text is...

you knowing where the message is coming from, per se, or if they are engaged in practices around the lists that they've uploaded that wouldn't pass muster for the text that they send from their short code, you know, like their five-digit number that is the official campaign thing, you might find that in peer-to-peer text. Peer-to-peer text is...

came up as an organizing tool to help voters reach out to people in their community or people that they knew and is definitely a key part of running a big grassroots campaign. But in the hands of grifty operatives, it can also be a key part of why you're getting bombarded so badly.

came up as an organizing tool to help voters reach out to people in their community or people that they knew and is definitely a key part of running a big grassroots campaign. But in the hands of grifty operatives, it can also be a key part of why you're getting bombarded so badly.

Yeah. And maybe I'm just old school, but our clients and campaigns and organizations we work with at Blue State don't send unsolicited SMS or email. It's just not the way to build a strong, healthy program over the long period. And the biggest, most successful programs over long periods of time don't engage in these practices. Yeah.

Yeah. And maybe I'm just old school, but our clients and campaigns and organizations we work with at Blue State don't send unsolicited SMS or email. It's just not the way to build a strong, healthy program over the long period. And the biggest, most successful programs over long periods of time don't engage in these practices. Yeah.

Which of those do you think is real? You know, I think a lot of people would love to have that level of energy from our Senate Democratic leader, but I think the last one was probably the biggest one.

Which of those do you think is real? You know, I think a lot of people would love to have that level of energy from our Senate Democratic leader, but I think the last one was probably the biggest one.

I mean, if you think about the version on the Republican side, right? On the Republican side, the grassroots fundraising is distilled to its most grifty concentrate because they just don't need that money, right? Like the Republican financing operation is so brazenly corrupt that all of the grassroots fundraising is really just about tricking older folks. Mm-hmm.