Joe Biden

Do you think it was partly that attitude change

for you at least in the beginning where it's like, well, look, I can drink, I drink a lot.

It comes from my mum genes and it doesn't affect me.

And then all of a sudden you realise, well, wait a minute, it's more than that.

Because I think there is that.

Like I was like that as a young man as well.

Like for me, it was easy to drink.

I didn't drink daily.

For me, I drank a lot more socially.

And I loved playing drinking games with my mates.

And that was really what I enjoyed the most probably.

And for me, when I quit, I could just quickly see how it just got me into doing things I would never do if I wasn't drunk.

So for me, it was more that.

But yeah, I wonder for you, did you find that there's a really fine line between like, oh, I know I can drink a lot.

And then all of a sudden you're kind of addicted, not addicted beyond that.

I'm happy to say I was definitely addicted to alcohol, not shying away from that at all.

I think anyone that wakes up and has, not wakes up, anyone that has a beer every day is probably got a little bit of a problem.

But yeah, you're right.

I would drink and drink and drink and drink.

And then you would just reach that moment where you're like, wow, I shouldn't have had that last beer.