Joe Carlsmith

And I think that's not, so yeah, I think it's kind of, you know, you can fall off on both sides of the horse.

I mean, I think there's kind of very little excuse for like not...

learning history or, or I don't know, or sorry.

I mean, I'm not saying I like have learned enough history.

I'm just, I guess I feel like even when I try to channel some sort of vibe of like skepticism towards like great works, I think that doesn't generalize to like thinking it's not worth understanding human history.

I think human history is like, you know, just so clearly, you know, crucial to kind of understand this is what, it's what's structured and created all of the stuff.

And so, um, uh,

you know, there's an interesting question about like, what's the level of scale at which to do that, right?

And how much should you be like, yeah, looking at details, looking at macro trends.

And that's, you know, that's a dance.

I do think it's nice.

I think it's nice for people to be like,

um, at least attending to the kind of macro narrative.

I think there's like a, there's some virtue in like having a worldview, like really like building a model of the whole thing, which I think sometimes gets lost in like, um, the details.

Uh, and, um, but obviously like if you're too, you know, the details are what the world is made of.

And so, so if you don't, don't have those, you don't have data, uh, at all.

So, so, um,

Yeah, it seems like there's some skill in learning history well.

I mean, it might be worth distinguishing between, uh, something like kind of intellectual seriousness.

Right.