Joe Carlsmith

And something like, uh, how diverse and wide ranging and kind of idiosyncratic are the, you know, things you're interested in.

Right.

And I think, um, maybe there's some correlation where people who are kind of like, uh, you

Or maybe intellectual seriousness is also distinguishable from something like shooting the shit.

Like maybe you can shoot the shit seriously.

I mean, there's a bunch of different ways to do this, but I think having an exposure to like all sorts of different sources of data and perspectives seems great.

And I do think it's possible to like curate your kind of intellectual influences too rigidly in virtue of some story about what matters.

Like I think it is good for people to like have space.

I mean, I'm really a fan of, or I appreciate the way like

I don't know, I try to give myself space to do stuff that is not about like, this is the most important thing.

And that's like feeding other parts of myself.

And I think, you know, parts of yourself are not isolated.

They like feed into each other.

And it's sort of, I think a better way to be a kind of richer and fuller human being in a bunch of ways.

And also just like these sorts of data can be just really directly relevant.

And I think some people I know who I think of as like quite intellectually sincere and in some sense, quite focused on the big picture.

also have a very impressive command of this very wide range of kind of empirical data.

And they're like really, really interested in the empirical trends.

And they're not just like, Oh, you know, it's a philosophy or, you know, sorry, it's not just like, Oh, history, it's the march of reason or something.

No, they're like really, they're really in the weeds.