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Joe Carlsmith

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1218 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Joe Carlsmith - Otherness and control in the age of AGI

If there are aliens, they might have like quite different tech.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joe Carlsmith - Otherness and control in the age of AGI

Um, and so maybe like, you know, if, if people meet, you don't expect them to be like, ah, you got your thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joe Carlsmith - Otherness and control in the age of AGI

I got, I am our version.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joe Carlsmith - Otherness and control in the age of AGI

And so she's like, Whoa, like that thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joe Carlsmith - Otherness and control in the age of AGI

Wow.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joe Carlsmith - Otherness and control in the age of AGI

So that's like one thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joe Carlsmith - Otherness and control in the age of AGI

Um, if you expect more like ongoing discovery of tech, then, um,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joe Carlsmith - Otherness and control in the age of AGI

you might also expect like more ongoing change and like upheaval and churn insofar as like technology is one thing that really drives kind of, uh, change in civilization.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joe Carlsmith - Otherness and control in the age of AGI

Um, so that, that could be another, you know, people sometimes talk about like lock in and there's like, ah, sort of, they envision this kind of point at which civilization is kind of like settled into some structure or equilibrium or something.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joe Carlsmith - Otherness and control in the age of AGI

Um, and maybe you get less of that if there's, I think that's maybe more about the pace rather than contingency or caps, but that's, um,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joe Carlsmith - Otherness and control in the age of AGI

that's another factor.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joe Carlsmith - Otherness and control in the age of AGI

So yeah, I mean, I think, I think it is an interesting, I don't know if it changes the picture fundamentally of like earth civilization.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joe Carlsmith - Otherness and control in the age of AGI

We still have to make trade offs about how much to invest in research versus acting on our existing knowledge.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joe Carlsmith - Otherness and control in the age of AGI

Um, but I, you know, I think it has some, some significance.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joe Carlsmith - Otherness and control in the age of AGI

Yeah, I mean, I sometimes think about this sort of two categories of views about this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joe Carlsmith - Otherness and control in the age of AGI

Like there are people who think like, yeah, like the knowledge, like we're almost there and then we've like basically got the picture, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joe Carlsmith - Otherness and control in the age of AGI

uh,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joe Carlsmith - Otherness and control in the age of AGI

And where the picture is sort of like, yeah, the knowledge is all just totally sitting there.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joe Carlsmith - Otherness and control in the age of AGI

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joe Carlsmith - Otherness and control in the age of AGI

And it's like, you just have to get to like remote.