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Joe Eszterhas

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2508 - Joe Eszterhas

The thing is it's like pulling from all these โ€“ when you get an AI response to something, it's pulling from all these articles on the web.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2508 - Joe Eszterhas

And most of the articles seem to indicate that people think it's at least either a hoax or an elaborate piece of hard work.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2508 - Joe Eszterhas

Supporters of an earlier date argue that the 1988 radiocarbon results โ€“ 1988 is a long time ago โ€“ sampled an anomalous or contaminated area โ€“

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2508 - Joe Eszterhas

and that other historical and scientific clues point to a much older cloth.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2508 - Joe Eszterhas

Okay, what is the scientific arguments?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2508 - Joe Eszterhas

Contaminated repair sample.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2508 - Joe Eszterhas

Some research claim the 1988 test piece came from a rewoven or heavily handled corner, so its carbon date reflects medieval repairs, not the original cloth.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2508 - Joe Eszterhas

Alternative dating methods, x-ray or crystallographic aging of linen fibers has produced dates compatible with the first century.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2508 - Joe Eszterhas

Though these methods are newer and not widely accepted as definitive,

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2508 - Joe Eszterhas

Analysis reports pollen grains and mineral dust consistent with the first century Middle East rather than only medieval Europe, which proponents say supports a much older origin.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2508 - Joe Eszterhas

Some argue that the image's microscopic features and burst of energy type characteristics require technology or phenomena unlikely in the Middle Ages, implying an earlier extraordinary event.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2508 - Joe Eszterhas

Well, why don't they do a retesting?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2508 - Joe Eszterhas

They probably don't want to know that it actually is from the 1300s.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2508 - Joe Eszterhas

The earliest undisputed record appears in the 1350s in Liry, a village in France, where the knight Geoffrey de Charnay displayed a cloth claimed to be Jesus' burial shroud.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2508 - Joe Eszterhas

How he obtained it and where it was between the 1st century and the 14th century are unknown.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2508 - Joe Eszterhas

Later theories trace it speculatively through Edessa and Constantinople.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2508 - Joe Eszterhas

I can't never say that.