Joe Liemandt

And it's going to be the hardest thing you did, but it's going to be great.

And that was why we were able to recruit everybody, was because of the high standards.

Fascinating.

Right?

And it was actually interesting.

Microsoft, at the time, our claim to fame was, we got all the best students.

At the time, I think Microsoft, sort of the peak of their power in 97, 98, 90% of the students would go to Microsoft versus any competing company.

Against Trilogy, it was like Microsoft only got 30% and we won 70.

And the reason was we made it harder.

Kids want to do awesome stuff.

Graduates want to do awesome stuff.

And you don't want to give them a cush job or all this stuff.

You want to put them on the hardest problems where they can work like crazy and do it.

So that was Trilogy University, which...

That ethos, we continue it today.

There's a program that's in Austin that's running right now called Gauntlet AI.

Because they're trying to figure out about AI and training, where they're bringing down 100 people into Austin.

So they basically scour the world, basically looking for the top 1% or 2% kids.

And these are 20-somethings.

And they're bringing them down to Austin.