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Joe Lonsdale

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#302 Joe Lonsdale - If China Takes Taiwan, AI Sets Back 10 Years

I think there's a lot of different levels you can define of what...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#302 Joe Lonsdale - If China Takes Taiwan, AI Sets Back 10 Years

like, what constitutes the computers being way, way ahead of us.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#302 Joe Lonsdale - If China Takes Taiwan, AI Sets Back 10 Years

And I think there's, like, artificial systemic intelligence.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#302 Joe Lonsdale - If China Takes Taiwan, AI Sets Back 10 Years

There's general intelligence is lower.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#302 Joe Lonsdale - If China Takes Taiwan, AI Sets Back 10 Years

And, like, one of the questions is, like, at what point, like, do people not even help the AI improve itself, which is kind of a scary question, right?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#302 Joe Lonsdale - If China Takes Taiwan, AI Sets Back 10 Years

So if you want to compare, if chess is the right analogy, if you go back to chess, it used to be that, like, people were better than the machines, but the machine could help you with tactics.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#302 Joe Lonsdale - If China Takes Taiwan, AI Sets Back 10 Years

So there's two types of chess.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#302 Joe Lonsdale - If China Takes Taiwan, AI Sets Back 10 Years

There's the tactics, which is like the next three, five, 10 moves.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#302 Joe Lonsdale - If China Takes Taiwan, AI Sets Back 10 Years

The computers are really good at that, even from 1960s, because you can see the next 10 moves.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#302 Joe Lonsdale - If China Takes Taiwan, AI Sets Back 10 Years

But people will be much better at knowing what's happening way farther ahead, right?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#302 Joe Lonsdale - If China Takes Taiwan, AI Sets Back 10 Years

Position, place.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#302 Joe Lonsdale - If China Takes Taiwan, AI Sets Back 10 Years

So there's things the human mind's better at, and there's things the computer is better at.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#302 Joe Lonsdale - If China Takes Taiwan, AI Sets Back 10 Years

And as the computer got better at chess, it got to the point where the best computer was better than the best person.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#302 Joe Lonsdale - If China Takes Taiwan, AI Sets Back 10 Years

But for a long time, if you combined a computer and a person, it still made it a lot better, because there were still some things that people were better at.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#302 Joe Lonsdale - If China Takes Taiwan, AI Sets Back 10 Years

So the people were so much better at position play that there would be a chimera.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#302 Joe Lonsdale - If China Takes Taiwan, AI Sets Back 10 Years

Combined, it was better.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#302 Joe Lonsdale - If China Takes Taiwan, AI Sets Back 10 Years

And then it got to a point where the computer is so freaking good, it doesn't even get any better if you add a person.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#302 Joe Lonsdale - If China Takes Taiwan, AI Sets Back 10 Years

It doesn't need to help anymore.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#302 Joe Lonsdale - If China Takes Taiwan, AI Sets Back 10 Years

It's just so far ahead.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#302 Joe Lonsdale - If China Takes Taiwan, AI Sets Back 10 Years

Damn.