Joe Lonsdale

I prefer being really strong on Putin and showing why he has to have peace. But then you need Zelensky to be a partner for it, too. And I do think—listen, I do think Zelensky had—

I prefer being really strong on Putin and showing why he has to have peace. But then you need Zelensky to be a partner for it, too. And I do think—listen, I do think Zelensky had—

wrong idea on the white house last week he should have been thanking them he should have come more humbly he should have actually been directed towards really wanting a piece and listen i i agree that ukraine's a very corrupt country we may find out that he and his cronies have taken a bunch of money i don't know if they are or not either way he has not really been signaling the right way to be open to peace and a piece that does i think have to give up a little bit of ukraine in order to get there i think that's the option on the table right now and that's the direction what about the nato question what's the you know and thank you for being so candid here what's the the nato

wrong idea on the white house last week he should have been thanking them he should have come more humbly he should have actually been directed towards really wanting a piece and listen i i agree that ukraine's a very corrupt country we may find out that he and his cronies have taken a bunch of money i don't know if they are or not either way he has not really been signaling the right way to be open to peace and a piece that does i think have to give up a little bit of ukraine in order to get there i think that's the option on the table right now and that's the direction what about the nato question what's the you know and thank you for being so candid here what's the the nato

This is really tough for me, because some of the people I care about most in the world live in places like Germany and around there, and I want them to be safe. I also think that the historic relationship between the UK and the US is this very, very valuable thing that we have, they shouldn't just be tossed aside. These are these are critical very long time allies and cousins.

This is really tough for me, because some of the people I care about most in the world live in places like Germany and around there, and I want them to be safe. I also think that the historic relationship between the UK and the US is this very, very valuable thing that we have, they shouldn't just be tossed aside. These are these are critical very long time allies and cousins.

You know, I think Europe's in a very, very bad place. It's very dysfunctional, man. It's, it's, it's, I did not see European civilization going the right way the next 20 or 30 years. I think JD is right to criticize them on, on anti-free speech on like, you know, arresting people who criticize the Islamic threat, like more than the people actually doing the rapes and stuff. It's crazy.

You know, I think Europe's in a very, very bad place. It's very dysfunctional, man. It's, it's, it's, I did not see European civilization going the right way the next 20 or 30 years. I think JD is right to criticize them on, on anti-free speech on like, you know, arresting people who criticize the Islamic threat, like more than the people actually doing the rapes and stuff. It's crazy.

These places have lost their minds. It's bonkers. So do I want to totally give it up? No. But do I want to demand fiercely that certain things get fixed and to use our foreign policy apparatus to make sure we fix those things if we're going to stay in the relationship? 100%.

These places have lost their minds. It's bonkers. So do I want to totally give it up? No. But do I want to demand fiercely that certain things get fixed and to use our foreign policy apparatus to make sure we fix those things if we're going to stay in the relationship? 100%.

I mean, listen, yeah. And I'm one of the most optimistic people. I call myself the American Optimist, Jason, as you know. And you have a great podcast, American Optimist.

I mean, listen, yeah. And I'm one of the most optimistic people. I call myself the American Optimist, Jason, as you know. And you have a great podcast, American Optimist.

We live together now.

We live together now.

People are too busy to come on. I'll try to get you. All right, so you're 0 for 4 with besties, got it. Okay. All right, I got to work on it. Listen, I would love AI to get to the point, I think it will, where it starts to accelerate growth, where this energy stuff can be mined more easily.

People are too busy to come on. I'll try to get you. All right, so you're 0 for 4 with besties, got it. Okay. All right, I got to work on it. Listen, I would love AI to get to the point, I think it will, where it starts to accelerate growth, where this energy stuff can be mined more easily.

But until, I'd say until we're at at least 5%, 6% growth, because we are going to the post-scarcity world, we don't know what is coming. I do still think global trade really matters. I do think global security for ourselves, like we don't want random people with nuclear proliferation. So there are issues that are going to affect all of us.

But until, I'd say until we're at at least 5%, 6% growth, because we are going to the post-scarcity world, we don't know what is coming. I do still think global trade really matters. I do think global security for ourselves, like we don't want random people with nuclear proliferation. So there are issues that are going to affect all of us.

But I think Dave makes a really great point that it is becoming less important over time. It's true.

But I think Dave makes a really great point that it is becoming less important over time. It's true.