Joe Lonsdale

And it turned out that Xi Jinping didn't even know his underlings had put this bioballoon up and were doing it, and it was actually bad for China because we used it to hack in. So I think in that case, there's a competent answer, which makes you feel good that there's not totally incompetent people. They met with Biden, they said what they're going to do, he agreed to let them do it.

And that was fine. So hopefully there's a competent answer for these drones, but it's a weird thing, man. I mean, do you think it's ours?

And that was fine. So hopefully there's a competent answer for these drones, but it's a weird thing, man. I mean, do you think it's ours?

And that was fine. So hopefully there's a competent answer for these drones, but it's a weird thing, man. I mean, do you think it's ours?

You know what I found out about government, man, is that there are some really great people. There are some amazing special forces guys. Every once in a while on the DOD, you'll have this genius person, the strategy group, and then the vast majority of them are incompetent.

You know what I found out about government, man, is that there are some really great people. There are some amazing special forces guys. Every once in a while on the DOD, you'll have this genius person, the strategy group, and then the vast majority of them are incompetent.

You know what I found out about government, man, is that there are some really great people. There are some amazing special forces guys. Every once in a while on the DOD, you'll have this genius person, the strategy group, and then the vast majority of them are incompetent.

And so it's just hard for me to say, but I'm hoping they're ours, because if they're not ours, that's actually a little bit scary, and it's really incompetent that we're not doing something.

And so it's just hard for me to say, but I'm hoping they're ours, because if they're not ours, that's actually a little bit scary, and it's really incompetent that we're not doing something.

And so it's just hard for me to say, but I'm hoping they're ours, because if they're not ours, that's actually a little bit scary, and it's really incompetent that we're not doing something.

If there was another story, then maybe, but I don't know. That's an interesting question. We're going to find out really soon. I'm curious. I don't want to make a bunch of stupid guesses and I come out to be an idiot because it's hard for me to know. I actually don't know the answer.

If there was another story, then maybe, but I don't know. That's an interesting question. We're going to find out really soon. I'm curious. I don't want to make a bunch of stupid guesses and I come out to be an idiot because it's hard for me to know. I actually don't know the answer.

If there was another story, then maybe, but I don't know. That's an interesting question. We're going to find out really soon. I'm curious. I don't want to make a bunch of stupid guesses and I come out to be an idiot because it's hard for me to know. I actually don't know the answer.

This is the future of warfare. It's like lots and lots of manufactured, smart, weaponized, autonomous drones, whether they're flying, whether they're on the water, whether they're under the water, whether they're on the land. That is the future of warfare as far as I'm concerned.

This is the future of warfare. It's like lots and lots of manufactured, smart, weaponized, autonomous drones, whether they're flying, whether they're on the water, whether they're under the water, whether they're on the land. That is the future of warfare as far as I'm concerned.

This is the future of warfare. It's like lots and lots of manufactured, smart, weaponized, autonomous drones, whether they're flying, whether they're on the water, whether they're under the water, whether they're on the land. That is the future of warfare as far as I'm concerned.

Epris is a really important company, and I'm proud to be a co-founder there. I can't take credit for it by myself. There's a few other people who are critical. Nathan Mintz, Bomar, other guys. Grant stepped in and played a key role. The background on that, by the way, is I'd gotten out of defense for a few years because after Palantir, it's hard.

Epris is a really important company, and I'm proud to be a co-founder there. I can't take credit for it by myself. There's a few other people who are critical. Nathan Mintz, Bomar, other guys. Grant stepped in and played a key role. The background on that, by the way, is I'd gotten out of defense for a few years because after Palantir, it's hard.

Epris is a really important company, and I'm proud to be a co-founder there. I can't take credit for it by myself. There's a few other people who are critical. Nathan Mintz, Bomar, other guys. Grant stepped in and played a key role. The background on that, by the way, is I'd gotten out of defense for a few years because after Palantir, it's hard.

You have to go talk to senators, you have to go to the DOD. It's stressful stuff. I built companies elsewhere, like you mentioned. But then we saw in the early 2010s, we saw a lot of our smartest friends in China were being forced to have their engineers work on military projects. And we said, wait a second, this is not good. And then we saw our defense primes