Joe Lonsdale

You need LIDAR for sure, because you're like measuring ahead where it dips down.

You might have ditches, you get stuck, you might have rivers, you're going around mountains, you're climbing over.

So he's the best in the world at that.

And his vehicles can go without humans interfering for days.

And this is obviously very, very useful for a military to be able to go over complex terrain.

And originally, he was powering all the other Primes and all the other vehicles out there.

But now he's building a bunch of his own.

He's doing both.

Actually, it's interesting.

I think the main one that we're going to make a lot of are smaller, rugged, all-terrain vehicles that can have a bunch of different kind of sensors and weapons on them, but they're not for carrying people in this particular case there.

And they're much, much, much cheaper.

So a tank is very useful for certain things, but...

these guys you probably could have several hundred of them for the cost of a fully equipped tank with different sensors with different weapons coordinating i'd be a hell of a lot more scared if i was 100 miles away and there were 300 of these smart things coming at me than just a single tank so there's there's two two different types of weapons

It is kind of analogous in the sense that you have autonomous Saronics building at scale, autonomous warships.

And Saronic's first product was a 25-footer.

Saronic last year also built, as you know, the fastest built big ship since World War II.

So Saronic is now building at scale 180-footers, 150-footers, 100-footers, which is pretty awesome, right?

Yeah, man.

I mean, 180-foot autonomous boat can be more powerful than a 400-foot destroyer if it's autonomous, because the destroyer has a freaking hotel on it that is 180-foot all weapons.

So you actually have more weapons on the 180-footer than the destroyer.