Joe Lonsdale

So he could see that going on for at least another couple of years.

He's right.

That's going to be very, very impressive in three years, but it's still not, it would still probably take until sometime in the next decade or two to do some of these other things, replacing people.

The question is, is it going to keep getting better or not?

And it's a fascinating situation.

It's looking likely.

You know, it's, I tend to think the universe works in asymptotes and not in exponentials.

Like the idea of a singularity, Sean, is that the thing like starts getting better and better and then improves itself faster and faster and then just infinitely shoots upward and like the whole, everything changes and you've basically have a God that you've created.

Like that's like a secular person's, you know, religious view from the tech world that we're just gonna change everything with a singularity.

And I think you have these explosions that like hit natural limits and then go over.

And so my view,

for everything every other phenomenon i've ever studied it's it's it's that these things don't just go exponential forever there's there's limits to the universe and how these things work uh so so maybe maybe it doesn't go exponential i don't know that i i think it probably doesn't but some people think it probably does that's a really big question for us for 10 20 years from now right on right on let's talk about some of these companies that uh 8vc is investing yeah what do you want to hear about i i i picked a handful here first one i want to talk about is overland ai i love it i've been uh

Byron is an impressive man.

He's a professor out west, and he's won the National DARPA Contest a bunch of times of how you navigate over kind of random terrain, right?

So this is very different than a self-driving car.

The problem Elon and Google and those guys are solving is driving on roads with...

people and bikes, and it's a hard problem, right?

There's a really hard problem, obviously.

The problem he's solving is like over kind of like random 3D terrain, like in a forest.

Like if you're gonna launch an attack, if you're gonna defend this, you know, if someone had to drive something out back over, you know, out behind here where you're shooting, it's like, that's a different sort of self-driving problem.