Joe Loya
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But he jumped through every hoop they told him to jump through to get us back.
And he humiliated himself.
He had to come into the homes.
I was not nice to him.
It's like the old Who song, like something about the new boss, same as the old boss.
You know, it was like...
Like, now it's my turn to be the jerk towards him.
I wasn't magnanimous.
And I had the power.
I had, you know, figuratively, I had social services on speed dial.
They came to see us all the time, whatever.
So I could threaten him with that shit.
So anyway, I was not nice to him my senior year when I went back.
But he was humble.
He knew what he did.
He accepted.
And, you know, to be honest with you, for years and years, decades, he beat himself up for that stuff.
Yeah.
So first of all, one of the worst experiences of my life, but one of the most powerful observations as a human looking at human dynamics was that first night that I get to McLaren Hall.
And it's all the kids that have been brutalized.