1265: Joe Loya | Confessions of a Bank Robber Part Two
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How did childhood trauma influence Joe Loya's criminal behavior?
Siitä tietää, että on ollut hyvä loma, kun tekee mieli mennä piiloon. Aurinkotuolin alle, ettei tarvitsisi vielä lähteä. Tjärebori, lomia joiden et soisi loppuvan.
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That'll help new listeners get a taste of everything we do here on the show. Just visit jordanharbinger.com slash start or search for us in your Spotify app to get started. Now, this is part two with Joe Loya. If you haven't heard part one, of course, go back and listen to that. We're going to continue his amazing story right now. Where we left off last time is that you were out on bail, your aunt had put up her house to get you on bail, and you are just in such a place in life that you really kind of, in your words, you just didn't care about anything.
What role does compassion play in healing from past trauma?
It wasn't, I'm out on bail, I better go get a job at Target. It was robbing banks again, and I was just, I think most of the audience, myself included, is just like, why?
Damn it. We started that whole entire story. I've never started a story with the question you asked me. How does somebody do this? Like, how do you get to do 30 banks? I try to track the movements that erode my sense of posterity. I don't believe I have a future. So there's nothing inside of me like, oh, I got to protect my future. I better get a job. I better start saving money for the future. I better get a profession so that I can rise in the ranks in the future. None of that. Because the trauma is so intense, you're only looking at surviving the next day in front of you.
Why is self-examination scarier than external threats?
In fact, that's the way I've come to understand people who mess up, mess up, mess up, mess up, mess up, mess up, mess up, mess up, is that they're only trying to survive that day to get to the next day in hopes that maybe one day they can make the jump to goodness. So they're just surviving every day and they're making mistakes because all they need to do is get to the end of the day and then they wake up the next day and it's just day and day. And then you see people change like me and you realize, oh, every day was impulsive, just trying to survive. The things we're facing are challenges outside of us. Like the challenges came to me. I could stab them, beat them. It wasn't the external challenges.
It was all the challenges inside of us that a lot of us don't have language to process. I told you when I had grief as a child, what did they tell me? Don't cry.
Don't cry. Yeah.
Because your mom's in heaven. Which compounded my pain because now I'm feeling guilty. All that's internal.
How can emotional armor hinder personal growth?
I told you one of the worst things that happened to my child had nothing to do with physical beatings. It was what I heard and how my body metabolized that thing my dad said to my brother. What is that? It's all internal. Our internal compass is so messed up. It's like looking at a compass that's just spinning. There's no true north. There's no nothing. It's just spinning out of control. And nobody can help us figure out how to grab a hold of this trauma. place it down, ground it, and start working on it. What's given to us instead is language of, you're a sinner, you're a bad person, you're a super predator, all that stuff, right? Psychopath, narcissist. But we're just trying to get by. We're trying to do it.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
How did childhood trauma influence Joe Loya's criminal behavior?
0:02–1:31
2
What role does compassion play in healing from past trauma?
1:31–2:17
3
Why is self-examination scarier than external threats?
2:17–3:12
4
How can emotional armor hinder personal growth?
3:12–3:52
5
What transformative power does storytelling have in personal healing?
3:52–4:44
6
How did Joe Loya navigate life after prison?
4:44–5:17
7
What are the challenges of reintegrating into society after incarceration?
5:17–5:58
8
How did Joe Loya's relationship with his father evolve over time?
5:58–1:08:15
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