Jordan Harbinger

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I'm Jordan Harbinger.

On the Jordan Harbinger Show, we decode the stories, secrets, and skills of the world's most fascinating people and turn their wisdom into practical advice that you can use to impact your own life and those around you.

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My guest today has had a very interesting childhood, and by interesting, what the heck did I just read?

That is what I said when I put that book down.

He grew up inside the cult of Scientology, not as an adult who wandered in looking for answers, but as a kid who never really had a choice.

Baby factories, kid barracks, children policing children, a literal billion-year contract, which I don't get this.

You're not allowed to sign up for Instagram yet, but sure, go ahead and sign away your soul until the heat death of the universe or whatever.

No school, no parents, no reading, no writing, just labor, punishment, and the psychological equivalent of Lord of the Flies, but with better branding.

This is Jamie Mustard, and his story arc is bananas.

Man, you've had just a very interesting childhood.

I'll give you that.

Your story arc is something else.

Hell of an opener, Jamie.

But no exaggeration.

I mean, the book starts with The Baby Factory.