Joe Mathieu

What does this mean today to reaching that new level of power in Utah?

Chris, I'd love to hear about what you are working on at TerraPower because it's a little bit different than some of the other nuclear technology that our viewers and listeners are probably used to.

Natrium reactors are your specialty that use liquid sodium instead of water as a coolant.

Does that make them safer or more dangerous?

All right, Chris.

Well, I mean, that's a heck of an elevator pitch.

And Governor, we're talking about some pretty esoteric technology here using gravity and thermal convection to enable passive cooling in this Natrium reactor.

Last time you were on with us, Governor, you talked about a whole different approach to these small size micro scale reactors.

Do you understand you're becoming an expert on nuclear science or are you just calling the smart guys to do the work?

Really interesting.

Chris, let's say you get a site by the end of the year.

That's your plan by the end of 2025.

How long would it take to have an atrium reactor up and running?

Governor, there's a headline in Washington today that the EPA is pulling almost $62 million in solar grants from the state of Utah.

Does that make your life more difficult when you're pursuing an all-of-the-above strategy?

Well, that's a really interesting answer.

I guess these grants, $62 million worth, are a little more than a year old.

This goes back to May of 24.

Would you ask for these grants to be restored?

And what does it mean for people paying their bills each month?