Joe Molloy

I don't know.

Well, I think that's implied.

1953 oh he forgot about 53 oh 53 of course 50 was just so devastating I could see it in Joe's eyes yeah so yeah you're right well so you're almost right 1953 you have to go back last time they were beaten by this kind of event Derek Ling unacceptable we lost every 50-50 ball they go back to Salt Hill in six weeks time for the opening round of the Leinster Championship I'm generally inclined to say you know league is league but like especially in hurling

You can still put me down for a Kilkenny in an All-Ireland semi-final and nobody wants to.

Rory McIlroy, the Players is on this weekend.

It's funny, I get all these like Cheltenham players.

Champions League last 16, the Atletico Liverpool anniversary.

When Jurgen Klopp walks out and Liverpool fans are still holding out their hands and he's like, what the fuck are you doing?

It's just, it's forever linked with COVID or certainly for our kind of generation, this run of sporting events.

I can still see Paul McGinley and Nick Doherty ashen faced.

Do you feel it was a great rupture?

Yeah.

Things have never been the same for you again?

Or have you quickly snapped back into it like it never happened?

Yeah, we were saying it's hard to actually know what the ramifications of it were.

You think at the time there were all sorts of psychologists and behavioral scientists and experts on saying, listen, when this is run through, we need to have a big national, international conversation about this and almost kind of reassess everything.

And that's not really an easy thing to have.

You just get back to work and get back onto life.

Like I was saying to Ronan,

definitely, and I was conscious of it and kind of had to walk away from it a little bit, is I definitely had less compassion for my fellow citizen, weirdly, because, and it was just because you were so like fearful or whatever of like,