Joe Molloy

But I do think he is partly the architect of his own disaster.

Yeah, that's fascinating.

Yeah, wow.

Yeah, that doesn't surprise me.

It is extraordinary that it's in black and white, but he's got this sort of almost Trump like characteristics.

Kinahan constantly needs to be praised even in, you know, even when he's doing stuff and you could see it along the way as he was sort of trying to sports wash his, you know, his reputation, his life.

There were certain things he did and that people were doing around him and you just want to put your head in your hands.

Don't do that.

That looks so, you know, this is really not a good idea.

I mean, I would have thought the three hour podcast interview with James English, although we have never seen it, would have possibly needed to have been edited.

Even for a podcast, three hours is a long time to be kind of singing yourself up.

But yeah, he became almost that sort of, he got this sort of God thing going on that he felt he was the saviour.

He could save people.

He was so special and important.

And really, when you believe that and you do something like he did with Tyson Fury, that probably reinforces that self-belief, doesn't it?

Yeah.

Yeah, because then when Fury mentions him those three times in 2020, I mean, straight away, it's in Leinster House, it's in the Dáil, parliamentary privilege is being used, back-channeling with the UAE is happening, British broadcasters, British authorities, like it just did.

If you were like part of the operation and prone to secrecy and let's keep the head down, you would definitely be inclined to think, oh God, don't bring all this on us.

You know, let's not have Leo Varadkar talking about us.

And, you know, I think Tyson Fury was sanctioned to do that, like what Ciarán says is in that contract.