Joe Navarro
👤 PersonAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
This is the person who only thinks about themselves and doesn't care of what suffering or what's going on through your life. wants you to be loyal but is not loyal to you, is disinterested in your personal affairs but wants you to be interested in theirs. There is your malignant narcissist. Oh, and by the way, they inherently tell lies but expect you to tell the truth to them.
This is the person who only thinks about themselves and doesn't care of what suffering or what's going on through your life. wants you to be loyal but is not loyal to you, is disinterested in your personal affairs but wants you to be interested in theirs. There is your malignant narcissist. Oh, and by the way, they inherently tell lies but expect you to tell the truth to them.
Now, the effect is, well, if they're only 2% of the population, but we see them in a lot of corporations, we're going to work for them. Then how do we get along? Well, first is recognizing that they're going to devalue us. Now, sometimes they devalue you by not inviting you to meetings or sharing information, but many times it's by the way they treat you, yelling at you, being disparaging.
Now, the effect is, well, if they're only 2% of the population, but we see them in a lot of corporations, we're going to work for them. Then how do we get along? Well, first is recognizing that they're going to devalue us. Now, sometimes they devalue you by not inviting you to meetings or sharing information, but many times it's by the way they treat you, yelling at you, being disparaging.
I mean, I have some things that are horrific. So what do we do when we have... people like that. Number one is recognize what you're dealing with. And that's why I wrote the dangerous personalities, because I have these robust checklists in there, which have been tested many times. So you can see, oh, wow, out of 125 things, this person has 75 of these traits. You've got a problem.
I mean, I have some things that are horrific. So what do we do when we have... people like that. Number one is recognize what you're dealing with. And that's why I wrote the dangerous personalities, because I have these robust checklists in there, which have been tested many times. So you can see, oh, wow, out of 125 things, this person has 75 of these traits. You've got a problem.
But now here's the thing. When we live with somebody like this, let's say they can be very charming, but then they turn on you and they become who they really are. Then how do you deal with that? What I can tell you is that the arc of the trajectory does not favor you, that these individuals are so caustic, they're so toxic that
But now here's the thing. When we live with somebody like this, let's say they can be very charming, but then they turn on you and they become who they really are. Then how do you deal with that? What I can tell you is that the arc of the trajectory does not favor you, that these individuals are so caustic, they're so toxic that
that eventually they will victimize you physically, mentally, emotionally, physiologically, or financially. You'll be victimized. The question then is, and I tell this to a lot of executives who work for these individuals who they're bullied and this stuff is, how long are you willing to tolerate it? If you can set a number and say six months or a year, okay.
that eventually they will victimize you physically, mentally, emotionally, physiologically, or financially. You'll be victimized. The question then is, and I tell this to a lot of executives who work for these individuals who they're bullied and this stuff is, how long are you willing to tolerate it? If you can set a number and say six months or a year, okay.
But then do something, because you will pay a price. There's a great book called The Body Keeps the Score. The body will definitely keep the score. You will pay a price for being in the proximity of a toxic individual. And if you become that person's chew toy, you will suffer immensely. And so I say, you know, there's no pill to cure them. There is nothing you can do to make them like you.
But then do something, because you will pay a price. There's a great book called The Body Keeps the Score. The body will definitely keep the score. You will pay a price for being in the proximity of a toxic individual. And if you become that person's chew toy, you will suffer immensely. And so I say, you know, there's no pill to cure them. There is nothing you can do to make them like you.
Expect no loyalty. Try to get out as soon as you can. And that's the only advice that, you know, obviously I'm not a clinician, but I think most clinicians, if they're honest, will say, you got to get out of there. This is not tolerable.
Expect no loyalty. Try to get out as soon as you can. And that's the only advice that, you know, obviously I'm not a clinician, but I think most clinicians, if they're honest, will say, you got to get out of there. This is not tolerable.
I don't think you can win. First of all, these individuals are severely flawed of character. They have no introspection. They see themselves as perfect. They don't see any imperfection in themselves. And so because they're flawed of character, you cannot expect normal behaviors from them. And so why expose yourself to them? They will be like that all their lives.
I don't think you can win. First of all, these individuals are severely flawed of character. They have no introspection. They see themselves as perfect. They don't see any imperfection in themselves. And so because they're flawed of character, you cannot expect normal behaviors from them. And so why expose yourself to them? They will be like that all their lives.
Oh, you know, people, I get this question all the time. Well, can you have multiple traits? Yes. You can have, you can be pathologically narcissistic, so you overvalue yourself, and And you can also have traits of the paranoid personality where that you are very rigid in your thinking and you're always suspicious of everybody's intentions. In history, you look at Hitler.
Oh, you know, people, I get this question all the time. Well, can you have multiple traits? Yes. You can have, you can be pathologically narcissistic, so you overvalue yourself, and And you can also have traits of the paranoid personality where that you are very rigid in your thinking and you're always suspicious of everybody's intentions. In history, you look at Hitler.
Hitler was pathologically, he was a malignant narcissist. He was clinically paranoid. Who did he fear? Minorities, the Roma, what was then called the Gypsies, and of course, the Jewish people. That is clinical paranoia. And he was a psychopath. Okay, let's just lay that out there. What is psychopathy? Psychopathy is where you have no remorse, no empathy, no conscience.
Hitler was pathologically, he was a malignant narcissist. He was clinically paranoid. Who did he fear? Minorities, the Roma, what was then called the Gypsies, and of course, the Jewish people. That is clinical paranoia. And he was a psychopath. Okay, let's just lay that out there. What is psychopathy? Psychopathy is where you have no remorse, no empathy, no conscience.