Joe Parkinson
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first heard Dec 2025
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But I think what they feel is that given how much things have changed and how exposed their system now feels, that they have to change fundamentally to address it.
Hi, I'm Joe Parkinson.
I'm Drew Hinshaw.
And we run the Wall Street Journal's World Enterprise team.
What we tried initially to do was to find out what was happening.
But then what we discovered was that there were incredibly dramatic conversations happening between the most powerful leaders in Europe.
We had seen, of course, since Trump has been sworn in for the second administration, a lot of rhetoric, a lot of crossed words.
We wanted to really understand what was happening in the real conversations that are deciding whether the West as an idea can continue.
And he really just has one job.
And the one job, from the Europeans' perspective, is to keep the U.S.
in NATO.
Use that relationship with Trump, use that warmth they've developed together to try to understand what he needs, what he wants, so that the Europeans can keep America as that hub of the wheel of the military alliance.
So there was a consensus and a relatively strong consensus that the best way to deal with Trump would be to flatter him and talk about the things that he was doing that they agreed were positive.
So that means communicating with him in the way that he likes to communicate.
Shorter, pithier messages.
It means using all caps for emphasis.
They were having coordination calls, speaking together about who should say what, when, how, even down to editing text messages together.
The prime minister of Norway and the president of Finland would sit down with one another, editing the text messages, discussing, workshopping them before firing them off to Trump's personal phone.
And for a while, this was actually very effective.
It was something like a victory march.
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