Joe Rogan (host) [primary speaker]

No.

It's just so hard to know, right?

It's so hard to know what's going on.

I've talked about it too many times, but have you ever read Pressfield's War of Art?

No, I have not.

Oh, we have a copy of it for you then.

He sent us a box of them because I used to give it to comics or any kind of creative person when they came on the podcast.

But Pressfield wrote this book, and he talks about the muse as if it's a real thing.

Pressfield was kind of like a ne'er-do-well until he was like 40.

He kind of, like, was, like, half-assing it until he was 40.

And then somewhere along the line he realized that it's just about being a professional and, like, showing up.

And so he started addressing the muse as a real thing.

Yeah.

And then he wrote The Legend of Bagger Vance and he wrote, like, some great screenplays and books.

Yeah.

And just became, like, very prolific.

There's also different ways that ideas come, right?

One of the things that Stephen King would do, a lot of people would do this, is they would write and then they would go for a walk.

So while you wrote everything and now let's go for a walk and just think about what you wrote.

And he would have a little recorder and he would talk into it.