Joe Rogan

Whenever they get challenged, the moment things get weird, that it just makes sense that if you make it socially, you become a social pariah.

If you start talking about UFO, here's Mike with his fucking wacky UFO theories.

People don't talk about those things.

They don't want to bring them up.

Little small snippets.

Well, I think one of the more interesting things when you start talking about stories and encounters, one of the more interesting things is some of the research that Jacques Vallée has done where he brings up stories that absolutely predate the modern cultural visions of UFOs.

Like the modern cultural concept of the close encounter of the third time.

kind type grays that come down in a flying saucer.

All those things, like flying saucer didn't even come out until the Kenneth Arnold experiences.

So these encounters, people were talking about from the 1700s and the 1800s.

And they're talking about something coming down and something interacting with people and them having some sort of experience of lost time.

The thread is very common, the Betty and Barney Hill story.

Why did the mainstream view become what it is?

And we know that that is because of a concerted, concentrated propaganda effort.

Yeah.

There was no other media back then.

They had complete control of newspapers, complete control of television stations.

How much do we know now about various news anchors that were actually CIA agents?

There's a fucking shit ton of them.

Here we go.