Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
We're up. So the guy that did your bar, Flying Guillotine, is the same guy that did The Mothership. Oh, wow. Richard Weiss. Yeah, Richard did it. Yeah, Richard, the same designer, architect, who did your bar. I have a Flying Guillotine t-shirt that I wear sometimes. I was trying to find it this morning.
I couldn't fucking find it. Well, mine's yesterday.
Chapter 2: How does the Flying Guillotine relate to the Mothership?
I went to the Alamo Draft House and did a screening of the film. I said, would it be appropriate to wear my Staten Island Alamo Draft House to them? And the guy there, he was like, he wanted to wear his, because he stole a stack from Staten Island, but he couldn't find no more.
I've got it somewhere. I've got it somewhere in my house, and I was scrambling this morning looking for it, looking for that t-shirt, couldn't find it. Well, we've got to send you some more. Definitely, definitely. So it's great to see you again, man. Back at you, man.
Back at you. I got questions for you. What do you got? Well, I was thinking, like, well, remember you had this place in Woodland Hills? Yes. That was, what, eight years now?
We've been out here for six, six years. So about six years ago.
Yeah, you were there like eight years ago, I think. And I just remember you having like the hyperbolic. Hyperbaric chamber? Yeah, the hyperbaric chamber. Are you still doing that?
Was that what it was or was it the sensory deprivation tank? Oh, the one where you float. Yeah, because we had that at the studio. We didn't have a hyperbaric at the studio, but I do have a hyperbaric. You have that now here? Yeah, not here. I have it at my house, yeah.
I just was always impressed at just your consciousness on things that are unique, right? And as time goes on, sometimes, you know, as we evolve, whether we evolve in physically, mentally, spiritually, or economically, sometimes we leave certain things behind. And I said, I wonder if Joe keep moving his chi in the same direction. So that's my question to you.
Well, sometimes it gets caught up in momentum and you got to step back and just realign yourself. That's definitely a factor. Like sometimes I'm too busy and I get too caught up in momentum of things and you kind of like lose like why am I doing this? Like what is the process? Like what is the reason for doing all this? But vacation always fixes that. Like you take a few days off and you go –
Now I enjoy it. I feel the same. To be honest, I've been running around for like eight days straight. And I like to kind of make sure I exercise, do my Tai Chi or something, or stretch my body. But I was telling my wife last night, like, yo, I haven't worked out since we've been moving. But I've been drinking every night. So today, this morning, before I came here, I got up a little bit earlier.
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Chapter 3: What are the benefits of exercise and wellness practices?
He has individual clients. Right, right, right. But I think Sifu is maybe 10 years older than me. Look 10 years younger than me. Right, of course. You know what I mean? Because he's just constantly moving that chi and exercising. He still could kiss his toes. in his 60s. Babies could do that, right? He still could kiss his toes like a baby.
But he said something to me that I took just heed to for myself. I said, Sifu, why do you work out so much? He gave me two answers. He says, one, it feels good. It makes me feel so good. But then the other answer he gave me was that because in Shaolin... When you get up in the morning, you have to exercise, run up a mountain, run back down a mountain, do chores and all that before you eat.
And he said, if you don't do that, you don't eat. And so I was like, well, that sounds like something from the Bible where it says that a man should work to the sweat of his brow. You know what I mean? And I took that philosophy. So I don't normally eat in the morning. I would normally get up, I mean, I drink coffee now. So I've been drinking coffee about 10 years, I think.
But I will have some coffee, some water, I get into my exercise routine when I'm home.
I think that's the best way to start the day. Yeah, I do the same. I don't work out. I don't eat, rather, before I work out. I always work out first. Right.
Because then the water is fresher. The food tastes better. Yeah. You earned it, too. Exactly.
You earned it. It's just a good way to start the day, too. You already did the hard part. The most difficult part of your day is done. Right. And then everything else. And also like that difficult thing makes the mental difficulty of the rest of the day work smoother. Yeah.
You ever remember that old commercial, the army commercial? Which one? It was like, we do by 6 a.m. Yeah. So she's like, we do for 6 a.m. what most people do all day. Yeah. It's like back when you first, you know, when I started out as young, I was like, I don't know what the fuck they're talking about. But as a man, I'm like, you know, that's wisdom.
Get up in the morning, get your chi going, and have a beautiful day.
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Chapter 4: How does RZA's new film connect to his personal experiences?
Right? So you cover your ears, and you bang on those drums first thing in the morning. Ooh. Exactly, and it opens up some of your chakras. Ooh. So...
It feels weird.
Because it's loud. It's loud as it could be, right? Yeah. My point being made, by studying all these different books, it's like the physical part, of course, is exciting. But to me, the mental part became more exciting. The more that I can apply. Therefore, I can apply it to my music. I can apply it to business. I can apply it to how to be a better father and all those things versus...
me just punching and trying to break a brick. You know what I mean? Right, right, right.
Yeah. I mean, that's Tai Chi, right? It's all mental. Tai Chi is a martial arts sort of. I mean, I guess you would learn how to move your body better. That could kind of help you applied in a self-defense situation. But it's much more of a mental martial art. And when I lived in San Francisco, I used to watch people in the park. These old Chinese people would go out there and practice Tai Chi.
I was like, what are they doing? Yeah. I was a kid. I was eight. I was dumb. But I was like, what is the purpose of doing this all day? And then once you do it a few times, you're like, oh, this is not easy to do. And then in doing that, it cleans your mind of everything else that's going on because all you're concentrating on is these movements, these very difficult movements.
They're not stupid. They've been doing this for thousands of years for a reason because it helps them.
Well, the crazy thing about Tai Chi, I'll give you a little... information about it that you may or may not know, but the idea with Tai Chi is that if you master it or if you have that control over it, you should be able to move 1,000 pounds with just four ounces of energy.
So the idea of them pushing constantly means if something ever came to them, they push that aside without even thinking about it. Because just four ounces of energy can divert, it's almost like tripping a giant. I think it's great on paper.
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Chapter 5: What dietary choices has RZA made over the years?
Yeah.
Chapter 6: How does RZA feel about the impact of AI on creativity?
Well, no, I started vegetarian in the 90s, and by the time I got to 2000, I started.
You don't fuck with eggs at all?
No, I got rid of the eggs. No? Yeah. The eggs, what got me off the fucking eggs, bro? I think my personality got me off the eggs, personally. Why is that? You know, it's like, I'm like, what's the word? I could be scornful. Is that the word? Like when you like, I don't know, like a Felix Unger type of shit. You know, have you ever watched Felix Unger? Odd couple.
Yeah, like you don't want pits in his orange juice or some shit. So eggs, like one day it's just the slime of the egg.
Yeah, just cook it.
Yeah, but it didn't got that little white shit in it, bro.
It's so good for you. And if you have your own chickens, like I have my own chickens, eggs are karma-free protein. They're like pets. They give you free protein. Right, right. Because they're laying an egg that will never be a chicken because it's not fertilized. Exactly. So it's just free protein. Right. And they lay them every day, basically, or close to it.
And you feed them, and they run around the backyard, and they pick bugs and grass. Right. What do you feed them? Chicken food. You know, you buy chicken feed, and we also feed them some table scraps and vegetables and different things. But they're carnivores, man, which is really wild. Like, you see them eat a mouse. It's crazy. A what? They tear mice. You never seen a chicken eat a mouse?
I've never seen a chicken eat a mouse. Chickens are straight-up dinosaurs. There's some great videos of chickens around a cat, and a cat's playing with a mouse, and the chicken just runs up on the cat and steals the mouse from him and tears it apart. I didn't see that, yo. I fed a chicken that I – well, one chicken stole the mouse, but this is what happened.
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Chapter 7: What is the significance of April 22nd for RZA?
We lost like two hawks died. It was really sad. But one of them survived and my family, my wife and my daughters took the hawk and put it in like a large cardboard box. It couldn't fly and they had to feed it over the weekend because the rescue shelter couldn't take it over the weekend. We had to bring it in on Monday. And so they go, well, what are hawks? How do you feed it?
We went to the store and the pet store. And the pet food store had these things called pinkies. And what they are is like little baby mice. And so you put these little baby mice in with the hawk. And the hawk ate most of them, but one of them lived. One of them the hawk didn't eat. The hawk had enough. Had enough pinkies. It ate enough. So my daughters were like, we want to keep that one alive.
I'm like, it's not going to live. It doesn't have the milk. It doesn't have its mother. It hasn't been weaned. It's going to die. And I said, let me just feed it to the chickens. I didn't even know if they were going to eat it.
Chapter 8: How does RZA view the future of cinema and streaming?
I didn't know what was going to happen. I put that little mouse down in the cage. And that chicken just ran up and snatched it and they all stole it away. So watch this cat. This cat's fucking with this mouse. The cats, you think cats are ruthless. Yeah, he's playing with this motherfucker. But he's playing with it. He wants to watch it hop away. And then the chicken gets annoyed after a while.
And the chicken's like, give me that shit, bitch. And when the chicken runs up on the mouse. Watch this. Instantaneously. As soon as the chicken realizes this. Fuck out of here. Give me that shit, bitch. And just starts tearing it apart. Holy shit. Chickens aren't into playing with things at all. They just rip at the trends. Nah, that shit. This is dinner. Yeah, just shaking it and mangling it.
I'm out of here.
They were all. chasing each other around the chicken coop where this one chicken had the mouse in its mouth, and they were all trying to steal it from her mouth. Oh, they wanted it more than anything. That's crazy. Because they don't act like that with chicken food at all.
Right, right. They wanted some meat.
Yeah, or dried worms, or that's one of them, like worm meal. You buy these boxes of dried, and you shake it, and they come running, and you'll leave that out for them. They love that. So, OK, so now your chickens, you got your own. How many? I have 15, 15 chickens.
So you're getting what? How many?
A bunch of eggs, like probably at least 10 eggs every day. Wow. And so because they don't always lay them every day. But it's free protein and it's healthy for you. You know exactly where it came from. There's no hormones, no pesticides, no herbicides. No nothing?
Let me interrupt our podcast for a moment. Okay. This is the RZA. I'm sitting here with Joe Rogan. I have a new film coming out, May 1st. It's called One Spoon of Chocolate, starring Sean Meek Moore and Paris Jackson, produced by Quentin Tarantino, in theaters everywhere, May 1st.
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