Joe Rogan

You're allowing a monster to eat your dog because you think that's the right thing to do and to be kind with nature.

Hey, wee.

No, you have to hunt them.

You have to get them the fuck away from you and keep a healthy population of them.

And if you don't do that, it comes back to bite you in the dick.

And is that a situation where you buy like a mountain lion tag, like just an extra tag, and you just have it just in case you run into one?

So if you're out in the wilderness and you're hunting elk, but you have a mountain lion tag.

It says, Oregon kills far more cougars each year than California, but those Oregon numbers come mainly from sport hunting and agency control, not from depredation tags.

Oh, wait a minute.

Agency control is what we're looking at, not depredation.

So what is the numbers here?

Yeah, let's reword the question and ask how many were killed in California from agency control.

Put that in there.

How many mountain lions were killed in California...

through agency control.

Because we were just looking at depredation tax, which is like what a hunter, or excuse me, a farmer gets.

Okay, they did not publish a clean statewide tally labeled specifically as agency-controlled mountain lion kills.

And current official tables group most lethal removals under depredation permits rather than separate agency-controlled category.

As a result, there's no single publicly available number that states how many mountain lions were killed through agency-controlled alone.

Let's just put this in.