Joe Rogan

And did you ask him, how do you know this?

Where are you getting this from?

And did he say whether or not the United States government or whoever was doing this research had tried to recreate one of those on their own?

But what was the metal that it was made out of?

We don't know.

Again, the metallurgy was not... That was not... It seems insane that you couldn't communicate to them that whatever this stuff is made out of, this whole thing acts as one cohesive unit.

It's not like you could make the same exact thing with aluminum or carbon fiber.

You were speculating that there was a type of metallic alloy that would work better with this concept.

Was it Byzantine?

Bismuth?

Bismuth, yes.

I don't think so.

No?

It wasn't you?

No.

Someone that I talked to was explaining to me.

Oh, that's what it was.

Oh, this is what it was.

So one of the pieces that Gary Nolan had found that was... Gary Nolan is the guy at a Stanford that has examined these pieces that are from supposedly crashed sites, crash sites where something had gone down and scattered.

Some of these pieces, they're atomically layered.