Joe Santagato

He sent me back like eight pages on why it sucks.

Like, like so many things like why it sucks.

And I was reading all of them and I'm like, oh my God, these make so much sense.

And like, that's exciting for me.

Because it's like now I'm making some sort of progress.

Like there's no way I'm getting this right on the first try.

Like I am super down to be wrong because I'm not I'm not trying to be right about I can do something like I'm trying to do something extraordinary, which is going to require some sort of collaboration, especially at this point, especially if you want to do something really extraordinary and like win some sort of award or whatever, like.

My approach would be to something like that.

The Academy Award is what I'm talking about, which is not actually like a goal.

I don't want people to feel like this is what I'm doing over here.

But it's more of like, if I get the opportunity, I'm putting everything into this thing and I will dot every I and cross every T. And I...

I'm not trying to get it greenlit.

I'm trying to get it to be the greatest show anyone's ever seen for its category.

That is kind of my approach to those things.

And I feel very capable, especially with the people that I have around me.

I get a lot of help and I believe in them tremendously.

And I think that we're super lean, but I just feel very capable in that way.

We didn't really...

expand the team like crazy any for any of these big moments i kept it like the people we were all doing it for the first time and we were figuring it out and you know after after realizing that i'm referring to touring now but uh it was just six of us and really like four of us are kind of like uh making decisions and dealing with the companies and whatever and

but we wanted to do it ourselves.