Joe Santagato

Like I was like, kind of sure, which,

Not sure.

But there was a moment where like all my friends are going to college and some of them are away, some of them are in the neighborhood, some of them have jobs and whatever.

And I'm literally doing nothing now because I dropped out of college.

I don't even have a job at this point.

How did that feel?

Like a fucking loser, dude.

Like I just, I literally felt like that was the first time that I ever told myself like, yo, you're full of shit, dude.

Like you have all this passion and, you know, I'm sitting in a car riding a fucking...

Like she'll be dead by the time this happens anyway.

But like, I was like, I was, you're sitting there writing that.

And then a part of me is like, I'm upset with myself because I'm like, you told yourself the lie and you believed it.

And yeah,

I do believe it is sort of like a lie because that could get you in trouble and it would have got me in trouble too.

If I followed that passion, because no matter what, I was following that.

I followed the excitement as far as like professionally is, and I think that's important, especially even now, if you ask me like, what's your five-year plan?

I don't have one.

I'm waiting for the excitement to appear.

I'm at the point now where it's a little easier to do that because I can kind of sit back a little bit and sort of rest on my laurels and, you know, kind of make decisions.

I could kind of float here.