Joe Santagato

Exactly.

But you can learn from everyone.

But making it—I think it's a mistake to—

Only look at people that are like your heroes as like the people you need to follow.

There's a lot of people around you that you can get things from that are going to help you.

People who don't know anything about your job or anything like my mom will say something that I'm like, oh, OK.

And it doesn't it's not always applied to the job, but it's also like my life, my actual personality and the way that I approach life.

The only way to grow is to constantly admit when you're wrong.

In my opinion, that feels like I try to take responsibility for everything that goes wrong in my life.

I truly try to do that because that's what I can control.

I can't really control how other people are going to react or what's going to happen or whatever.

But when something bad happens to you,

to me, I think that there's an opportunity there when something bad happens to you, where I can learn from this or I can take something from it, or I could just put up a wall and be like, wow, that person's fucked up.

But like, what is your involvement in that?

You know, like something, an easy example is if you're in a relationship and you get cheated on, it's like,

Well, what the fuck?

Like she's a whore.

She's whatever.

But like, what is your involvement actually?

And I'm not saying that let's, let's absolve her, you know, shouldn't have fucked Steve for sure.