Joe Santagato

Like just giving me the space to make mistakes and probably do things that she wouldn't do.

And like, she knows I'm about to do them and just kind of like, all right, you know, like, and there's a, there's a trust in that.

She doesn't look at me with like, all right, good luck, idiot.

Like, it's kind of like, there's, there's a trust that I'm going to let you be creative.

Like you have to let your children kind of like be who they are.

Like you can't make the same kid over and over again.

Where it's like, this is how you raise a child.

They do this.

You have to do that.

This one has to do that too.

And whatever, like children are very different, obviously.

And I think that if people, you know, maybe this one's really creative, this one's really into whatever, and this one's really into that.

And you kind of have to notice those things and let them do that.

And I really believe that my mother specifically, because in the years where I started to realize what was going on,

Uh, we kind of had that relationship where it felt like her guard came down a little bit as a mother and she like let me into her life a little more.

So I was like able to let her into, and then it felt more friendly, but she always says, she's like, we can't be friends though.

She always says that.

Interesting.

I imagine that would be, and I'm sitting here as a person who tries to control every single part of his fucking life, that when I have children, I'm going to be like, yeah, yeah, sure.

Go ahead, do it.