Joe Santagato

It's like, you're going to hear it because it's going to come out right now.

And then it usually just results in like a very easy thing that you can kind of get over.

There's, there's rarely a long lasting under the table grudge or anything like that.

Cause someone would just call it out.

It's like, what are you fucking still mad?

Like, it'll just, you know, like it's just kind of like that.

We were all just like very close.

What are you fucking still mad?

The fuck?

But my mom, my mom is great.

Both my parents are great.

My father lives in North Carolina now, and my mom is in New York.

So there was an age where I think, and I don't want to speak for parents because I don't have children, but I think that there's probably, in my life, it was important that

My mom is my mom.

She's always my mom and we can't be friends, but we, but there was a shift in, she, she, she stopped trying to be like this mother that's going to make decisions for me, you know, like what age did that happen?

I don't even, I can't really pinpoint it.

I would say it's probably younger than most people.

Oh, I didn't notice it until like maybe five, six years ago.

That was something that like meant a lot to me.

Yeah.