Joe Scarborough

Right. Yeah, correct. And I'd love to get into that. I'd love to get into that a little bit more after you go through these initial bullet points, only because certain skills lend themselves to governing, certain skills still lend themselves to politics and running for president. And yeah, there's a strong dividing line there on what he was capable of and not capable of.

Right. Yeah, correct. And I'd love to get into that. I'd love to get into that a little bit more after you go through these initial bullet points, only because certain skills lend themselves to governing, certain skills still lend themselves to politics and running for president. And yeah, there's a strong dividing line there on what he was capable of and not capable of.

Right. Yeah, correct. And I'd love to get into that. I'd love to get into that a little bit more after you go through these initial bullet points, only because certain skills lend themselves to governing, certain skills still lend themselves to politics and running for president. And yeah, there's a strong dividing line there on what he was capable of and not capable of.

Right. And just so people know, as you're going through all this, this is literally something that we have talked about, I think, every day since 2019. When one day I would express more concern, one day you would express more concern. And an ongoing debate going into 2020, is he really going to run? Going all the way back and throughout 2022, 23, 24. Yeah, it is just so.

Right. And just so people know, as you're going through all this, this is literally something that we have talked about, I think, every day since 2019. When one day I would express more concern, one day you would express more concern. And an ongoing debate going into 2020, is he really going to run? Going all the way back and throughout 2022, 23, 24. Yeah, it is just so.

Right. And just so people know, as you're going through all this, this is literally something that we have talked about, I think, every day since 2019. When one day I would express more concern, one day you would express more concern. And an ongoing debate going into 2020, is he really going to run? Going all the way back and throughout 2022, 23, 24. Yeah, it is just so.

So when you say we've talked about this, this isn't like once every three weeks. This has been a running obsession on the state of whether he's going to run, whether he's capable of running.

So when you say we've talked about this, this isn't like once every three weeks. This has been a running obsession on the state of whether he's going to run, whether he's capable of running.

So when you say we've talked about this, this isn't like once every three weeks. This has been a running obsession on the state of whether he's going to run, whether he's capable of running.

Yeah. Exactly. And you're going to play, I'm sure, the Biden at his best clip in a little bit. That came after I spent two and a half, three hours with him. So, yeah, so much of it is based on observation. And then, of course, you see a debate and you're like, well, no, maybe not. So, yeah, but you're right, though.

Yeah. Exactly. And you're going to play, I'm sure, the Biden at his best clip in a little bit. That came after I spent two and a half, three hours with him. So, yeah, so much of it is based on observation. And then, of course, you see a debate and you're like, well, no, maybe not. So, yeah, but you're right, though.

Yeah. Exactly. And you're going to play, I'm sure, the Biden at his best clip in a little bit. That came after I spent two and a half, three hours with him. So, yeah, so much of it is based on observation. And then, of course, you see a debate and you're like, well, no, maybe not. So, yeah, but you're right, though.

But it would sort of go back and forth between us over the past five, six years on this.

But it would sort of go back and forth between us over the past five, six years on this.

But it would sort of go back and forth between us over the past five, six years on this.

Yeah, I will say also, I think in 2017, well, I'll tell you, I actually I had I had talked about Bo's death on on the show and had had talked about that extraordinary event. that Bobby Kennedy gave after the death of Martin Luther King. And he talked about the awful grace of God. And I... spoke about Bo that way, the awful grace of God, drip by drip, until we understand actually the mercy.

Yeah, I will say also, I think in 2017, well, I'll tell you, I actually I had I had talked about Bo's death on on the show and had had talked about that extraordinary event. that Bobby Kennedy gave after the death of Martin Luther King. And he talked about the awful grace of God. And I... spoke about Bo that way, the awful grace of God, drip by drip, until we understand actually the mercy.

Yeah, I will say also, I think in 2017, well, I'll tell you, I actually I had I had talked about Bo's death on on the show and had had talked about that extraordinary event. that Bobby Kennedy gave after the death of Martin Luther King. And he talked about the awful grace of God. And I... spoke about Bo that way, the awful grace of God, drip by drip, until we understand actually the mercy.

And he called me then, and I thought back on it a good bit. I really do think so. If you're talking about 2017 book events, So I think those really good and really bad days certainly accelerated after the death of Beau Biden. And I suspect also, Utter also. This was Mika's operating theory during the campaign.

And he called me then, and I thought back on it a good bit. I really do think so. If you're talking about 2017 book events, So I think those really good and really bad days certainly accelerated after the death of Beau Biden. And I suspect also, Utter also. This was Mika's operating theory during the campaign.