Joe Scarborough

And he called me then, and I thought back on it a good bit. I really do think so. If you're talking about 2017 book events, So I think those really good and really bad days certainly accelerated after the death of Beau Biden. And I suspect also, Utter also. This was Mika's operating theory during the campaign.

Utter's conviction and all of those problems also just, again, had a profound impact on him. I think 2019 was the first time I called you and said, I'm not sure if this guy is going to run. And I think we agreed on that based on some observations.

Utter's conviction and all of those problems also just, again, had a profound impact on him. I think 2019 was the first time I called you and said, I'm not sure if this guy is going to run. And I think we agreed on that based on some observations.

Utter's conviction and all of those problems also just, again, had a profound impact on him. I think 2019 was the first time I called you and said, I'm not sure if this guy is going to run. And I think we agreed on that based on some observations.

I think this may be where we disagree. I mean, Joe Biden's always been Joe Biden. Joe Biden's always said crazy things. You go back to the 1987 campaign, you go back to, you know, you go back and you look at what happened in 2007, 2008. But that's speaking inartfully.

I think this may be where we disagree. I mean, Joe Biden's always been Joe Biden. Joe Biden's always said crazy things. You go back to the 1987 campaign, you go back to, you know, you go back and you look at what happened in 2007, 2008. But that's speaking inartfully.

I think this may be where we disagree. I mean, Joe Biden's always been Joe Biden. Joe Biden's always said crazy things. You go back to the 1987 campaign, you go back to, you know, you go back and you look at what happened in 2007, 2008. But that's speaking inartfully.

I don't know. Again, this is the sort of thing, there are a couple of things like this that we agree on so many things. There are a couple of things that we disagree on. And one is the Congresswoman who had passed away that he mentioned that I'm sure we'll be looking at too. Where I look at that as being Joe Biden getting up there, getting flustered, and

I don't know. Again, this is the sort of thing, there are a couple of things like this that we agree on so many things. There are a couple of things that we disagree on. And one is the Congresswoman who had passed away that he mentioned that I'm sure we'll be looking at too. Where I look at that as being Joe Biden getting up there, getting flustered, and

I don't know. Again, this is the sort of thing, there are a couple of things like this that we agree on so many things. There are a couple of things that we disagree on. And one is the Congresswoman who had passed away that he mentioned that I'm sure we'll be looking at too. Where I look at that as being Joe Biden getting up there, getting flustered, and

You know, he's he's had in his recording, you know, sort of recording in his brain since he was 19, 20, since he was 29. I'm Joe Biden. I'm running for Senate. And I'd love your vote. I think also, Mark, and you mentioned this before, we've both got nothing. I've unfortunately spent 30 years talking way too much.

You know, he's he's had in his recording, you know, sort of recording in his brain since he was 19, 20, since he was 29. I'm Joe Biden. I'm running for Senate. And I'd love your vote. I think also, Mark, and you mentioned this before, we've both got nothing. I've unfortunately spent 30 years talking way too much.

You know, he's he's had in his recording, you know, sort of recording in his brain since he was 19, 20, since he was 29. I'm Joe Biden. I'm running for Senate. And I'd love your vote. I think also, Mark, and you mentioned this before, we've both got nothing. I've unfortunately spent 30 years talking way too much.

And, you know, there'll be times I will I will say Mitterrand, you know, Mitterrand and Trump just don't get along. And, you know, it'll be like. during the break where Alex will get in my ear. I'm sorry to interrupt you. No, I say Alex will get in my ear and say it's Macron, not Mitterrand. You think that clip is telling.

And, you know, there'll be times I will I will say Mitterrand, you know, Mitterrand and Trump just don't get along. And, you know, it'll be like. during the break where Alex will get in my ear. I'm sorry to interrupt you. No, I say Alex will get in my ear and say it's Macron, not Mitterrand. You think that clip is telling.

And, you know, there'll be times I will I will say Mitterrand, you know, Mitterrand and Trump just don't get along. And, you know, it'll be like. during the break where Alex will get in my ear. I'm sorry to interrupt you. No, I say Alex will get in my ear and say it's Macron, not Mitterrand. You think that clip is telling.

Let me ask you, though, because this happens with other politicians. We've seen other politicians do this before, and this is not whataboutism, but when Donald Trump talked constantly about World War II and when he talked about all the other crazy things he did,

Let me ask you, though, because this happens with other politicians. We've seen other politicians do this before, and this is not whataboutism, but when Donald Trump talked constantly about World War II and when he talked about all the other crazy things he did,

Let me ask you, though, because this happens with other politicians. We've seen other politicians do this before, and this is not whataboutism, but when Donald Trump talked constantly about World War II and when he talked about all the other crazy things he did,

It was Nikki Haley. Nikki Haley. Exactly. I think they're both from South Carolina. But but yeah, I mean, I I've seen that a good bit, especially in older politicians. And I think for me, the question is, is, you know. Does that impact his governing or not? I also this is a great mystery for me, Mark. And maybe you can help answer this. So you see a through line that through 24.