Joe Scarborough

Yeah. Exactly. And you're going to play, I'm sure, the Biden at his best clip in a little bit. That came after I spent two and a half, three hours with him. So, yeah, so much of it is based on observation. And then, of course, you see a debate and you're like, well, no, maybe not. So, yeah, but you're right, though.

Yeah. Exactly. And you're going to play, I'm sure, the Biden at his best clip in a little bit. That came after I spent two and a half, three hours with him. So, yeah, so much of it is based on observation. And then, of course, you see a debate and you're like, well, no, maybe not. So, yeah, but you're right, though.

But it would sort of go back and forth between us over the past five, six years on this.

But it would sort of go back and forth between us over the past five, six years on this.

But it would sort of go back and forth between us over the past five, six years on this.

Yeah, I will say also, I think in 2017, well, I'll tell you, I actually I had I had talked about Bo's death on on the show and had had talked about that extraordinary event. that Bobby Kennedy gave after the death of Martin Luther King. And he talked about the awful grace of God. And I... spoke about Bo that way, the awful grace of God, drip by drip, until we understand actually the mercy.

Yeah, I will say also, I think in 2017, well, I'll tell you, I actually I had I had talked about Bo's death on on the show and had had talked about that extraordinary event. that Bobby Kennedy gave after the death of Martin Luther King. And he talked about the awful grace of God. And I... spoke about Bo that way, the awful grace of God, drip by drip, until we understand actually the mercy.

Yeah, I will say also, I think in 2017, well, I'll tell you, I actually I had I had talked about Bo's death on on the show and had had talked about that extraordinary event. that Bobby Kennedy gave after the death of Martin Luther King. And he talked about the awful grace of God. And I... spoke about Bo that way, the awful grace of God, drip by drip, until we understand actually the mercy.

And he called me then, and I thought back on it a good bit. I really do think so. If you're talking about 2017 book events, So I think those really good and really bad days certainly accelerated after the death of Beau Biden. And I suspect also, Utter also. This was Mika's operating theory during the campaign.

And he called me then, and I thought back on it a good bit. I really do think so. If you're talking about 2017 book events, So I think those really good and really bad days certainly accelerated after the death of Beau Biden. And I suspect also, Utter also. This was Mika's operating theory during the campaign.

And he called me then, and I thought back on it a good bit. I really do think so. If you're talking about 2017 book events, So I think those really good and really bad days certainly accelerated after the death of Beau Biden. And I suspect also, Utter also. This was Mika's operating theory during the campaign.

Utter's conviction and all of those problems also just, again, had a profound impact on him. I think 2019 was the first time I called you and said, I'm not sure if this guy is going to run. And I think we agreed on that based on some observations.

Utter's conviction and all of those problems also just, again, had a profound impact on him. I think 2019 was the first time I called you and said, I'm not sure if this guy is going to run. And I think we agreed on that based on some observations.

Utter's conviction and all of those problems also just, again, had a profound impact on him. I think 2019 was the first time I called you and said, I'm not sure if this guy is going to run. And I think we agreed on that based on some observations.

I think this may be where we disagree. I mean, Joe Biden's always been Joe Biden. Joe Biden's always said crazy things. You go back to the 1987 campaign, you go back to, you know, you go back and you look at what happened in 2007, 2008. But that's speaking inartfully.

I think this may be where we disagree. I mean, Joe Biden's always been Joe Biden. Joe Biden's always said crazy things. You go back to the 1987 campaign, you go back to, you know, you go back and you look at what happened in 2007, 2008. But that's speaking inartfully.

I think this may be where we disagree. I mean, Joe Biden's always been Joe Biden. Joe Biden's always said crazy things. You go back to the 1987 campaign, you go back to, you know, you go back and you look at what happened in 2007, 2008. But that's speaking inartfully.

I don't know. Again, this is the sort of thing, there are a couple of things like this that we agree on so many things. There are a couple of things that we disagree on. And one is the Congresswoman who had passed away that he mentioned that I'm sure we'll be looking at too. Where I look at that as being Joe Biden getting up there, getting flustered, and

I don't know. Again, this is the sort of thing, there are a couple of things like this that we agree on so many things. There are a couple of things that we disagree on. And one is the Congresswoman who had passed away that he mentioned that I'm sure we'll be looking at too. Where I look at that as being Joe Biden getting up there, getting flustered, and

I don't know. Again, this is the sort of thing, there are a couple of things like this that we agree on so many things. There are a couple of things that we disagree on. And one is the Congresswoman who had passed away that he mentioned that I'm sure we'll be looking at too. Where I look at that as being Joe Biden getting up there, getting flustered, and