Joe Spector

For context, the ratio in human health care is 1 to 20.

No way.

The disparity is so huge and the amount of vet schools is so little.

We could have dozens of vet schools pop up and it would still maybe not be enough in the next decade.

And like I said, this trade organization is refusing to launch any new schools.

It's very much cartel behavior.

And what's crazy is I feel like then this gaslighting happens where I'm painted as the bad guy.

And they'll say, this guy Joe or Dutch, he's just self-interested.

He's the one that wants your money.

And I'm like, how is that possible when I'm reducing the cost?

Yeah.

It doesn't make sense.

Couple reasons.

So prior to Dutch, I was one of the co-founders of HIMS and HERS.

And so I helped start that telemedicine journey.

And I would say if we back it up even more, we'd have to go back to my experience coming to America and just always as an immigrant and having to figure things out.

When we, my family and I immigrated from the Soviet Union.

Where?

To the Bay Area.

No, but where in the Soviet Union?