Joe Starkey

He can learn from him.

Yeah, I like it.

I still wouldn't have Jim Schwartz.

Yes, very much is, and that's how it should be, I think.

Right?

You want to have someone who's in charge of that stuff.

And I think it's fair to say that McCarthy will certainly have an impact.

an imprint.

His fingers will be on this defense, but he's not going to be the guy who's going to be doing it all the time.

And I think he's made that, even though he hasn't directly said that, I think it's pretty clear that he is, his mind is on offense and he will trust the defensive side of it with whomever he, you know, chooses to be that guy.

If you look at numbers, again, we're looking at numbers.

A lot of these defensive guys we have not seen.

We're just looking at numbers.

If you're going to look at numbers, the numbers that McCarthy, regardless of whether or not he inherited a quarterback, developed one, used one, whatever the case, the numbers are good.

Except in the playoffs.

Okay, there are a lot of reasons that could be the case, too.

I'd like to look at each of these games.

As I would suggest here, people say, well, you get blown out.

They did.

And it was the defense that, not so much the offense.