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Joe Weisenthal

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I mean, many of them are.

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But I'm always like amazed that given how much money is money on the table.

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Yeah.

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What are you doing at a university?

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You're probably making 10 times.

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Where did that money come from?

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Just from a pure sort of history of technology standpoint, does AI feel different?

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Right.

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No, I've totally thought about the same thing where it just like feels like we're going to have this arms race where it's like my bot will argue with your bot.

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And then the only entities that make any money are the bot makers, the bot makers themselves.

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So obviously we're talking about the public sector.

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We're talking about the government's role in facilitating or guiding various technologies.

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But there's also just like politics, right?

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Winning elections.

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And the fact that, you know, as you mentioned, failures become a scandal and they're on the paper and maybe like politicians lose their jobs and then someone comes in.

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When you, just in your own personal work, when you like think about this stuff, like how much do you have to calculate the reality that

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one big job of politicians is to win reelection.

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And that a loss of election has the potential to just take the government in 90 or 180 degree turn from whatever the previous administration at any level in any country does.

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And how much do you think about that reality when you're thinking about...

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All right.