Joe Weisenthal

Professor Matsukado, thank you so much.

Great to finally catch up with you.

It took us all like randomly being in the same location in Madrid.

But thank you so much.

Thank you so much for coming on Oddlog.

Thank you so much for having me.

Tracy, I'm glad we finally caught up with Professor Matsukata.

This is definitely the place to do it.

I think it really did.

Her framing makes a lot of sense.

This idea that like outsourcing is not per se bad, that obviously any major mission is going to have to have significant private sector funding.

involvement and innovation, even if it's somehow publicly led, but that there's no chance of going anywhere if the public sector doesn't have the internal muscle of who to talk to or who to talk to at the right time.

How to judge performance seems absolutely a key question.

You know, AI seems like a weird thing as a technology because.

All right.

On the one hand, you could say, like, all right, we want to massively improve our health care system.

We want to massively improve health care outcomes.

And I think you could, like, very easily say, well, AI is going to be a really big part of that, right?

And maybe make things a lot more efficient, maybe give information access to a lot of people, identify experts, et cetera, et cetera.

Yeah, totally.