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Joe Weisenthal

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

It's so great.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

So maybe the mission has something to do with health and AI plays an important component of it.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

I guess what's strange, though, is that AI itself creates its own potential pitfalls.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

I mean, the industry, as you mentioned, is obsessed with the pitfalls of its own making, right?

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

Yeah.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

And so there is almost no way that AI can just be a tool in service of some other mission.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

Because almost everyone who knows something about AI sees potential for extreme exacerbation of inequality, potentially AI robots that will be misaligned and want to kill us all when they have sufficient capabilities.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

Yeah, right.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

And so like, on the one hand, like, yes, as a technology, it might fit into some of these other big missions.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

But on the other hand, it sort of feels like it has to there has to be some like, AI specific goal of like, where do we want this technology to go?

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

Or how do we how do we curb it or whatever it is, that seems very distinct.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

And I don't think it is marketing, or just marketing, because A, there's already this very big tech backlash, right?

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

So like, it's not working.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

You know, if the idea is, oh, we wanna plump our valuations, and so we do that by saying the TAM is all human labor,

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

Yeah.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

Well, you're really upsetting a lot of people by saying this.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

It's not that's not obviously good.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

And B, you know, as we've written about or talked about, you know, some of these big labs like they were founded from day one with the premise that this is not normal technology, which is why it's like housed in a nonprofit or something like this.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

So I tend to think that when the CEOs of these companies talk about this stuff, they kind of mean what they say.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

They, too, are they, too, are concerned.