Joe Weisenthal

But, yeah, someone who, like, really, like, whose whole career is, like, dedicated to a lot of Odd Lots-y things.

We didn't want to just do it at any other random venue.

Yes, it was all very strategically designed.

So we really do have the perfect guest, someone that a lot of guests have wanted to listen to, hear from for a long time.

We're going to be speaking with Mariana Mazzucato, professor at University College London, founder of the Institute for Public Purpose, author of several books sort of touching on these themes of technology, public sector, private sector, the roots of innovation, how these things actually get deployed.

So

Professor Mazzucato, thank you so much for coming on Odd Lots.

Finally.

Finally.

Completely our fault for not having made it happen sooner.

But what are you doing here?

What brings you to this particular conference?

What attracts you here?

As someone with two kids in the New York City public schools, I can absolutely confirm that the degree to which they associate the mayor with school lunch policy is extremely real.

And they like talk about like, oh, we used to have these like really nice waffles or something.

And then Eric Adams got rid of it.

Like they're really like keyed in.

Single issue voters on waffles.

They're like really pay attention to the degree to which school lunch policy shifts with administration.

Like this is like, they're really, they really think, what is state capacity?