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Joe Weisenthal

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

How to judge performance seems absolutely a key question.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

You know, AI seems like a weird thing as a technology because.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

All right.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

On the one hand, you could say, like, all right, we want to massively improve our health care system.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

We want to massively improve health care outcomes.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

And I think you could, like, very easily say, well, AI is going to be a really big part of that, right?

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

And maybe make things a lot more efficient, maybe give information access to a lot of people, identify experts, et cetera, et cetera.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

Yeah, totally.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

It's so great.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

So maybe the mission has something to do with health and AI plays an important component of it.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

I guess what's strange, though, is that AI itself creates its own potential pitfalls.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

I mean, the industry, as you mentioned, is obsessed with the pitfalls of its own making, right?

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

Yeah.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

And so there is almost no way that AI can just be a tool in service of some other mission.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

Because almost everyone who knows something about AI sees potential for extreme exacerbation of inequality, potentially AI robots that will be misaligned and want to kill us all when they have sufficient capabilities.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

Yeah, right.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

And so like, on the one hand, like, yes, as a technology, it might fit into some of these other big missions.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

But on the other hand, it sort of feels like it has to there has to be some like, AI specific goal of like, where do we want this technology to go?

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

Or how do we how do we curb it or whatever it is, that seems very distinct.

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Mariana Mazzucato Thinks We Need More Moonshots

And I don't think it is marketing, or just marketing, because A, there's already this very big tech backlash, right?