Joe Wiesenthal

It blinks, et cetera.

There's a lot of cool things.

But how do you design...

How do you incentivize a public good as a good way to frame it?

Purposely dropping breadcrumbs.

Yes.

In his studio, in his foundation.

Thank you.

We're in this gorgeous building of yours and we were just looking over there on the shelf there for a series of wood samples.

For example, different types of wood from different trees.

At the highest levels of architecture to do a great building, how much does the architect really need to know?

I guess maybe material science or at least the true nature of specific materials.

I'm really fascinated by this idea of, okay, so one might think that an architect is someone who draws lines, draws sketches on a piece of paper, and then maybe there is an engineering firm, and then there's a construction firm, and then so forth.

I'm fascinated by this idea, and it rings true with other discussions we have.

We talk to traders, for example, and there's obviously a difference between thinking in your head on a good trade versus thinking

what it actually takes to execute it technologically.

Well, since you alluded to it, and now I'm particularly curious about it, I imagine that in the decades ahead, you know, there will still be new JP Morgan headquarters, New Bloomberg headquarters, etc.

But there's probably going to be a lot more

megaproject still coming out of Asia or Beijing or China specifically.

And so when you describe that environment is different, what should the architects of the future know about working in these markets?