Joe

You know what I mean?

And it strikes me that the plan is a wonderful force field that I can wrap around me, take comfort in my plan.

And it makes, you use the word feel, not think.

So I feel, I feel ready.

I feel prepared.

But that, you know, so if that's true, you know, at times it just must get on top of their, it must be just tough to deal with what they're dealing with.

What are the more common things when you sit down with someone for a chat one-on-one, say, and, you know, maybe to the outside eye, their form is grand.

They're so-so, they're six, seven, eight out of 10.

What are the more common things when they're at their most vulnerable that athletes would say to you, the things you've heard time and time again?

What do you tend to say in those conversations?

Does that help you?

Yeah, yeah, it's amazing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And Farrell, to be fair, preaches the vulnerability thing a lot, you know.

It's almost become like people parodied it almost, you know, that he's vulnerability, vulnerability, vulnerability.

You know, he's often talking about that and seems it pains to create that environment in what is like a macho alpha sport.

And, you know, it's quite commendable on his part because I'm fairly certain the wig and dressing room of the 90s he was in was not a vulnerable place.

Just a thought, and this is quite a difficult question for you, actually.

So, you know, the world is like awash with self-help books, which, you know, increasingly feels like a kind of cynical, overly commercialised space.

And you kind of can't cross the road without meeting somebody who hosts a podcast about high performance.