Joe

Why play it as a... It's poetic license.

And like, I disagree with it.

It's actually, the reality is more interesting.

And then he walks off.

Sorry, the Tehran scenes are very made-for-TV budget.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

they had about 11 extras in the crowd as Mick's being interviewed on the sideline but no I don't think it's anything to do with that Will I just it makes no sense to me bar someone saying for no obvious reason how do we make this a bit more sympathetic towards our who is ultimately our lead character Roy Keane because it makes Roy look shafted from every angle and the fact is Roy shafted himself in certain ways Roy did do those interviews yeah so like he knew what he was doing for sure for sure and he was he was given a read of he said thumbs up

after doing the interview.

Which, as you say, is extremely rare in journalism.

So why not include the fact that Roy also was an architect of his own downfall?

Rightly so.

We're signing off on that topic.

The movie comes down on Team Roy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, going on one second, staying with the fact of e-fiction theme for a second, is there anything else glaring that people spotted in the fact of e-fiction that was objectionable?

There was nothing too much else for me.

Well, let's talk nationalism then and that leads into the kind of the big row.

And first of all, on nationalism, just the betrayal of it, like I should say, you know, and these are the low points of the movie where like there are just bizarre scenes where Mick McCarthy is doing a live radio phone-in show from Saipan and the presenter is letting callers through.

And one of the callers is like, but you're a plastic paddy.