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Joel Hron

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The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

But like hallucination is certainly one of the most critical aspects of it.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

And I think what we find is that like each of these models are, you know, really good at different things.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

Like GPT-5, really good at a lot of reasoning stuff.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

Like the anthropic models are exceptional at like tool use and these sorts of activities, code writing.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

the Gemini Google models are really good at longer context type tasks where you're dealing with huge documents and things like that.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

And it's hard to break up the context.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

And so we really find that like, you know, testing these models on a regular basis, having really good internal benchmarks that we lean on to give us

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

good signal as to where these models might be stronger or weaker, helps us refine our focus of where we put these models.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

We also do, we acquired a company about a year ago called SafeSign that was really focused around legal small language model development.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

And that's certainly an area of research for us as well.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

Like, as you think about it,

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

Again, just the volume of raw content we have, but also the number of experts we have in this field who, again, know this legal process, know legal reasoning.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

I think the ability to train some of these finer aspects into smaller models, whether those be tools or actual components and planning process, has real potential as well.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

And so that's a big area of research for us at the moment, in addition to the third-party models we use.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

I'm actually quite excited about it, to be honest with you.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

I think, you know, in in my shoes, like as a company with terabytes of proprietary content and thousands of legal experts.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

I think we have all of the ingredients to really excel with open source models.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

And so as that tide rises, I think it creates a lot of opportunity for us to deliver models to our customers in different ways that help them manage the security or privacy concerns they may have.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

So I think we're really optimistic about the future state of open source.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

I also think sort of the positive momentum of open source drives the commercial models better.