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Joel Hron

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The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

analyze the brief against case law and say, like, is somebody extending the law?

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

Are they like, you know, using sound logic here in terms of what the law actually says in making this statement?

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

And so if you think about that, that's actually a tool for a research agent to use.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

Like, hey, am I am I making up BS right now?

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

And and it can use these kind of things along the way to help, you know, control itself from from a hallucination standpoint.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

So we actually build, I think, tools and logic into the process.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

And then the third thing is really just training.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

Like I said, I guess, you know, if you do that one time as a lawyer, you remember like, OK, I need to check this next time.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

Right.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

And so, you know, we hope that that doesn't happen to any of our users and we try to train them in a way that.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

to, to indicate to them, here's how you should use these visual clues.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

Here's how you can read like what the agent is doing.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

And, and here's where you should spend your time validating or invalidating certain parts of this answer.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

So I think this, this element of training and change management for attorneys and, you know, to the extent we can, we, we try to lean in and really help them with that process.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

But I think it's really all three of those things in combination that

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

Yeah, no, 100%.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

I would say we have a pretty agnostic model philosophy internally, and we're constantly benchmarking the latest models as they come out.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

Smart.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

And hallucinations are one part of that rubric.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

I mean, obviously, they have much more, you know, I think, breadth to them than just hallucinations.